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How To Fix Motorcycle Engine Pre-Detonation

 

How To Fix Motorcycle Engine Knock

Your bike can automatically detune its engine, but there’s an easy fix.

_by Eddie Hilgendorfen |May 10, 2023

Many modern motorcycles are designed to compensate for low-octane gasoline in an attempt to prevent motorcycle engine knocking. Unfortunately, the technology involved may also cause reduced performance, rough idle or lack of throttle response, making for a less than stellar ride experience. Fortunately, we can help you understand the root cause of this problem, and offer an inexpensive, quick and easy solution.

What is engine knocking?

Engine knock  or pre-detonation is caused by an improper detonation within the engine, which happens when fuel ignites outside of a timed ignition from the spark plug. In the race to improve fuel economy, modern high-performance engines have increased compression ratios, which also inherently increases the chance of pre-ignition detonation.

Octane measures gasoline performance against pre-ignition, detonation and the resulting engine knocking or pinging. The three most common octane ratings are:

  • Anti-Knock Index (AKI)
    The rating typically displayed on North American gas station pumps as the average of the fuel’s RON and MON octane ratings (R+M)/2.
  • Research Octane Number (RON)
    This rating is determined by testing fuel using a variable compression ratio under controlled conditions and is the most common industry rating worldwide. When comparing octane ratings, RON is typically higher than the AKI number, so an 87-octane AKI fuel at a typical gas station typically has a RON of 91-92. AMSOIL uses RON when conducting product validation and performance testing.
  • Motor Octane Number (MON)
    MON differs from RON testing by using a preheated fuel mixture, variable ignition timing and a higher engine speed to increase ignition stresses on the fuel. Though the tests are unrelated, MON results are typically 8 to 12 octane lower than RON.

Causes for loss of power and efficiency

Low-octane gasoline is more susceptible to uncontrolled and early ignition in the combustion chamber, so the higher the octane, the more compression the fuel can withstand before igniting. Pre-ignition robs the engine of power, can cause a noticeable knocking or pinging sound, and if left unchecked, can even cause catastrophic piston or cylinder damage.

This is why I decelerate (turning off the cruise control) when driving up or climbing steep hills and I also sometimes turn off the air conditioning. Also doing this you can see A decent increase in your fuel efficiency

High stress combined with lightweight design caused this dirt bike piston to fail. Dude was in first place so missed out on the cash prize.

Reduced performance.

Many modern motorcycle engines are equipped with a knock sensor. Pre-Detonation causes this sensor to adjust timing to compensating for low-octane gasoline. Unfortunately, adjusting the timing usually results in a noticeable decrease in performance, rough idling and lack of throttle response. When timing changes are done correctly, most riders shouldn’t even be aware that the performance has been reduced, but it’s easy to resolve this performance problem.

Boosting octane To Reduce Knock

The risk of engine knock can be reduced by:

  • retarding ignition timing
  • enriching the air-fuel ratio
  • reducing cylinder pressure or engine load
  • reducing the throttle or boost especially as you climb a hill
  • increasing the octane rating of the fuel
  • Engine work – lower compression

Therefore, the performance degradation caused by reduced engine timing can most easily be eliminated by increasing the fuel’s octane number. AMSOIL Motorcycle Octane Boost increases octane up to three numbers. On a bike that can be significant! This helps to eliminate motorcycle engine knocking and maximize power, performance and fuel efficiency. We get a LOT of feedback on this. Check out the product reviews.

 

 

 

 

Can I Use Transmission Fluid in Oil to Clean My Engine?

Can I Use Transmission Fluid in Oil to Clean My Engine?

Yeah – those youtube rescue channels all show using ATF to clean out the engine – they’re doing it the hard way…

ATF is not made to clean sludge from engines. Instead, it’s best to use a dedicated engine flush.

AMSOIL Engine & Transmission Flush helps to remove sludge and deposits from engines and transmissions.

_by Phil Collinsburger |May 5, 2022

Over time, engines can accumulate deposits that reduce power and performance. Since automatic transmission fluid contains detergents to clean sludge, some DIYers add a small amount of transmission fluid in their oil to clean the engine prior to oil changes.

ATF, however, is not formulated for use in automotive engines. Instead, a product that’s designed to flush engines is a far-superior approach.

How Sludge Forms

Stop-and-go driving, prolonged idling, trips too short for the engine to reach full operating temperature, towing, the ingestion of airborne dirt, fuel dilution, water condensation and oxidized oil all can promote sludge build-up in motor oil and transmission fluid.

Sludge clogs narrow oil passages, restricting oil flow to vital parts, especially the upper valve train area, causing wear.

Transmission Fluid In Oil Reduces Cleaning Power

In most cases, adding automatic transmission fluid to motor oil reduces cleaning power. That’s because the detergency of ATF is less than motor oil. Why is that?

ATF is exposed to lower levels of combustion byproducts and contaminants than motor oil, so it is formulated with reduced detergency. Instead, ATFs have elevated levels of friction modifiers and other additives that help protect gears and clutches.

Transmission Fluid In Oil Reduces Wear Protection

Second, adding ATF alters the motor oil formulation and reduces its effectiveness.

A good motor oil is a fine balance of base oils and additives designed to fight wear, reduce friction, prevent deposits and slowly dissolve accumulated sludge. The cleaning power of motor oil is designed to work gradually over subsequent oil changes and not necessarily all at once. Adding a foreign substance to the oil disrupts the formulated chemistry, negatively impacting wear protection, detergency and more.

Changes Motor Oil Viscosity

Finally, ATF can alter the viscosity of the oil, reducing wear protection.

Viscosity is the oil’s most important property, influencing wear protection and fuel efficiency. Increasing or decreasing viscosity by adding a little transmission fluid in oil to clean sludge can lead to increased engine wear.

Use An Engine Flush Instead

If you want effective sludge removal and cleaning power, we recommend using AMSOIL Engine & Transmission Flush. It helps to restore fuel economy, increase operating efficiency and reduce emissions in gasoline and diesel engines, and automatic transmissions. Its potent, detergent-based formula cleans sludge and deposit build-up.

AMSOIL Engine & Transmission Flush

  • Prepares engines and transmissions for new oil
  • Removes deposits and sludge for improved efficiency, fuel economy and lower emissions
  • Prolongs vehicle life
  • Detergent-based formula is environmentally friendly
  • Compatible with seals and gaskets
  • Works in one treatment
  • Easily disposed of with waste oil

Benefits For Gasoline And Diesel Engines

  • Helps loosen sticky valves and rings, minimizing blow-by and reducing emissions
  • Helps quiet lifter noise
  • Promotes lower operating temperatures through sludge removal

Benefits For Automatic Transmissions

  • Cleans deposits in oil cooler and ports
  • Helps unclog fluid passages
  • Cleans deposits and varnish from clutch plates, helping improve efficiency
  • Promotes smoother operation and transmission life through reduced shift delay

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